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5.19.2009

"Besides, you lose your soul."

First it was "We don't torture." Then it was "waterboarding isn't torture." Now, it's shifted again, and the pro-torture argument is that it is justified because it works. Watch Joe Scarborough go ballistic and try to pretend that it's insulting even to suggest that it didn't work. Sigh. Fine, let's argue that point. Torture doesn't work:

Military, Intelligence and Law Enforcement Officers Opposing Torture

Why Bush’s "Enhanced Interrogation" Program Failed

Okay, now let's move on to the big one: Why? Well, I certainly don't know, but Larry Wilkerson, Colin Powell's former Chief of Staff says that it was to find a link between Iraq and Al Qaeda. WTF.



Now, a final note. Three people were waterboarded. Okay, I'll give you Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. He was a total dick and pretty much deserved it. You just couldn't get the country riled up about messing with him. But check out the (absurdly detailed) wikipedia entries on the other two suspects, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The interesting parts: Despite the absurd list of allegations again Zubaydah, the U.S. Government has not officially charged him with any crimes. On February 5 2009, al-Nashiri's charges were withdrawn without prejudice. On top of that, Zubaydah is, as far as I can tell, basically insane. That was what Ron Suskind says an FBI analyst told him, which would make sense, considering that, "In 1992, while fighting for the mujahideen Abu Zubaydah was injured from a mortar shell blast which left shrapnel in his head and caused severe memory loss, as well as the loss of his ability to speak for over one year." He was waterboarded 83 times in August, 2002.

"Brutalization doesn't work. We know that. Besides, you lose your soul."
- Dan Coleman, retired FBI agent

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